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0:00hi everyone welcome back so today we’re going to be talking about the case of sabrina zunich and um i don’t even know

0:07

7 secondswhere to start with this case this case is definitely a shocking one of course but it’s such a strange one it’s a

0:14

14 secondsdisturbing one it’s not a very nice one i mean none of them are but this one yeah not nice so initially sabrina was

0:22

22 secondscharged with the murder of her foster mother but later it actually came out that sabrina was groomed by her foster dad into murdering his wife for him

0:30

30 secondszunich’s guilty plea is a formality because in june she provided damning testimony against the mastermind of the murder lisa kenafel’s husband 43 year

0:39

39 secondsold kevin knefel there’s just so many layers to this case because obviously sabrina murdered someone but she’s also a victim herself in a way what was his

0:48

48 secondsrelationship to you it was when a foster father when needed to be and when all of her when not being a foster father zunich

0:57

57 secondstold the jury that after kevin knows her and began a sexual relationship with her he convinced her to kill his wife so yeah we’re gonna get into all of that in

1:05

1 minute, 5 secondstoday’s video so let’s just jump straight in but before we get on to today’s case we do have a sponsor so i just want to give a huge thank you to

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4:21

4 minutes, 21 secondstoday’s case so sabrina zunich was born on the 27th of october 1994 making her a scorpio and she grew up in a small town

4:30

4 minutes, 30 secondsjust outside of cleveland ohio now sabrina didn’t have a stable childhood whatsoever her parents struggled with

4:38

4 minutes, 38 secondsalcohol and drug addictions both parents were just in trouble with the law for various different things sabrina’s mom did spend some time in prison for

4:46

4 minutes, 46 secondsscamming the welfare system and she was also arrested on numerous occasions for drug charges her dad was also arrested

4:54

4 minutes, 54 secondsmultiple times for various duis and also domestic violence offenses sabrina’s dad would often become quite aggressive with

5:03

5 minutes, 3 secondssabrina’s mom sabrina’s dad was diagnosed as a paranoid schizophrenic and he would often become aggressive with sabrina’s mom when he would stop

5:12

5 minutes, 12 secondstaking his medication so this is the kind of world that sabrina was living in for the early part of her childhood it

5:19

5 minutes, 19 secondswas very chaotic very toxic and at the age of four sabrina was diagnosed with adhd and then throughout her childhood

5:27

5 minutes, 27 secondsshe was also diagnosed with anxiety depression odd and bipolar disorder so in the end sabrina was mainly raised by

5:35

5 minutes, 35 secondsher grandmother and her grandmother also lived in the family house it’s not like she moved out to her grandmother’s but even with the support of the grandmother

5:43

5 minutes, 43 secondsbecause i think she actually was a stable parental figure even with her support it didn’t stop sabrina from going down a wrong path sabrina

5:52

5 minutes, 52 secondsregularly got into trouble at school it is reported that sabrina did suffer with anger issues and she would often get

5:59

5 minutes, 59 secondsinto fights at school and i don’t know the exact age but i do know that it was before the age of 14 so still so young

6:08

6 minutes, 8 secondssabrina started to experiment with drugs and alcohol herself and it was around this time as well that she started to steal to fund her addiction so the older

6:17

6 minutes, 17 secondssabrina got the more difficult she was to handle the more off the rails she went and she just became too much for her grandmother to handle and obviously

6:24

6 minutes, 24 secondsher grandmother is her primary caretaker i don’t really know like i couldn’t find out i don’t really know where her biological parents were most of the time

6:32

6 minutes, 32 secondsit was literally just her grandmother so at the age of 14 sabrina was sent to the emma kailey receiving home which is

6:39

6 minutes, 39 secondsdescribed as a behavioral modification institution following her stay at this

6:45

6 minutes, 45 secondshome she was placed into the foster care system and throughout her teenage years from the age of 14 she would just be moving from one place to another and

6:54

6 minutes, 54 secondsthen it was in july 2011 that sabrina was placed in the foster family of kevin and lisa conneafel so kevin knife was

7:02

7 minutes, 2 secondsborn on the 16th of june 1970 making him a gemini and kevin married lisa in 2006.

7:08

7 minutes, 8 secondsand a few years after the couple got married they did go on to have a child together who they named hayley now lisa

7:16

7 minutes, 16 secondsdid already have a daughter from a previous marriage her name was megan and all four of them lived as a family in willoughby hills which is just a suburb

7:24

7 minutes, 24 secondsof cleveland this was actually not too far from where sabrina grew up and it said that the caneful family were a

7:32

7 minutes, 32 secondspretty normal family like that’s what others described them as anyway kevin did work as a truck driver and lisa was

7:40

7 minutes, 40 secondsa social worker and more specifically lisa actually worked in the family and children department and she mainly dealt with victims of sex abuse crimes and she

7:49

7 minutes, 49 secondshad to deal with a lot of incest cases and lisa absolutely loved her job she was so passionate about helping people

7:56

7 minutes, 56 secondsand it just came naturally to her and she has just been described as just so caring so compassionate just willing to help everyone and wanting to help

8:05

8 minutes, 5 secondseveryone as well she had to support a lot of children in difficult situations people like sabrina and she truly did

8:12

8 minutes, 12 secondscare deeply about her job she really did care deeply about the children and the families that she worked with and it

8:19

8 minutes, 19 secondssaid that because of lisa’s kind caring nature that this is what led her to want to expand her family through foster care

8:27

8 minutes, 27 secondslisa actually fostered several children but the children that she did foster were quite young they were mainly

8:34

8 minutes, 34 secondsinfants so when lisa and kevin knightful fostered sabrina in july sabrina was actually the first teenager

8:41

8 minutes, 41 secondsthat they’d ever fostered and when sabrina first moved into the kanefor family household everything at the beginning anyway went great she fitted

8:50

8 minutes, 50 secondsin perfectly sabrina got on really well with lisa she also got on really well with her foster sisters both megan and

8:57

8 minutes, 57 secondshayley and i think megan and haley who megan was 13 at the time and haley was three years old i think they also enjoyed having that older sister in the

9:05

9 minutes, 5 secondsfamily and sabrina’s life right now was probably the most stable it’s ever been and this actually showed in her school

9:13

9 minutes, 13 secondslife because her grades dramatically improved she actually attended school which was rare for sabrina prior to being fostered by the canadian family

9:21

9 minutes, 21 secondsshe would ditch school quite often and she became like a model student she was never late she never missed school her grades really improved and overall she

9:28

9 minutes, 28 secondsjust seemed like a really happy teenager but unfortunately this didn’t last for very long over the next few months

9:36

9 minutes, 36 secondstensions did start to rise between lisa and sabrina sabrina just felt like her foster mom would always favor her

9:44

9 minutes, 44 secondsbiological children over sabrina and that she would just never truly fit in however the situation between sabrina

9:52

9 minutes, 52 secondsand kevin was completely different sabrina just felt like kevin never mistreated her he never judged her he always made her feel

10:01

10 minutes, 1 secondwelcome and that she was a part of the family and sabrina just felt like she could completely rely on kevin for absolutely anything if she had a problem

10:09

10 minutes, 9 secondsshe could go to kevin and he would help where i think sabrina didn’t really feel like that about lisa so over time

10:15

10 minutes, 15 secondssabrina and kevin grew closer and closer and people around them started to notice this and people started to think that

10:24

10 minutes, 24 secondsthey were getting a little bit too close like unnaturally close sabrina’s friends

10:31

10 minutes, 31 secondsjust described kevin as a really creepy man and he would always make sexual

10:38

10 minutes, 38 secondsjokes towards sabrina it’s honestly just so creepy i’m so sorry i hate having to say all of this sabrina’s friends also

10:46

10 minutes, 46 secondsdescribed kevin as a quote touchy dude and this next bit is just so creepy it’s

10:54

10 minutes, 54 secondsso disgusting so there was this one incident where sabrina had to have a meeting with her social worker at school and kevin was there at this meeting it

11:03

11 minutes, 3 secondswas to like sort out a dispute or something with another student i don’t really know so kevin went to this meeting with sabrina and the social

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11 minutes, 11 secondsworker and the social worker has said that in the meeting kevin asked sabrina to sit on his lap

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11 minutes, 20 secondsand in between his legs it’s just the arrogance for me it’s like you’re in front of a social worker and that is your behavior

11:28

11 minutes, 28 secondsso it’s like if that is your behavior in front of a social worker in public what the hell is your behavior like behind closed doors and a lot of people have

11:35

11 minutes, 35 secondsjust started to notice all of this just weird suspicious behavior but no one actually knew what was going on behind

11:44

11 minutes, 44 secondsclosed doors but what was going on behind closed doors is that kevin and sabrina had started a sexual

11:51

11 minutes, 51 secondsrelationship sabrina’s relationship with her foster dad turned sexual in the spring of 2012 so approximately about

11:58

11 minutes, 58 secondsnine months after she first arrived at the foster home in july of 2011 and this next bit is just so creepy i will spare

12:07

12 minutes, 7 secondsyou the gory disgusting details um so the relationship started with massages

12:15

12 minutes, 15 secondsoh kevin started to ask sabrina to massage his inner thighs because he was

12:22

12 minutes, 22 secondsa truck driver and his legs would cramp up so he needed a massage seriously it really creeps me out so it

12:29

12 minutes, 29 secondsstarted with massages on the legs um things progressed from there i think we

12:37

12 minutes, 37 secondsall know where it went i don’t need to say it because it’s just too disgusting so each massage it would kind of slowly escalate that would engage in sexual

12:45

12 minutes, 45 secondsactivity until eventually kevin and sabrina were having sex by the summer of 2012. in the summer of 2012 sabrina is

12:54

12 minutes, 54 secondsstill only 17. she’s a minus so regardless of if this sexual relationship or whatever was consensual you cannot ignore the fact that sabrina

13:03

13 minutes, 3 secondsis still a minor and kevin is supposed to be her foster dad so he’s in a position of power he’s abusing that power sabrina is a child placed in the

13:12

13 minutes, 12 secondscare of kevin and lisa she is very vulnerable and kevin is just completely taking advantage of her so whilst this relationship between kevin and sabrina

13:21

13 minutes, 21 secondswas going on kevin and lisa’s relationship was getting worse apparently lisa just knew that something

13:28

13 minutes, 28 secondswasn’t right between kevin and sabrina and i just wonder like because obviously her line of work she worked with victims of sex abuse and let’s not beat around

13:37

13 minutes, 37 secondsthe bush here kevin is a sexual predator i wonder how much she actually picked up on in the house because of her line of

13:44

13 minutes, 44 secondswork so kevin and lisa would argue all the time and the situation actually started to get so bad that they started

13:51

13 minutes, 51 secondsto talk about getting a divorce and there was one incident where the argument was so bad the police were called and they were called out because

13:59

13 minutes, 59 secondsof a domestic violence incident and it’s because apparently kevin had grabbed the 13 year old megan by the back of the

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14 minutes, 7 secondsneck and because of kevin doing this lisa called the police and kevin was apparently furious that lisa called the

14:15

14 minutes, 15 secondspolice because you know that they were talking about having a divorce what kevin was hoping to be able to get custody of the younger daughter remember

14:23

14 minutes, 23 secondsthat the younger daughter haley who is three years old now she’s the only one that is biologically kevin’s and he was hoping to get custody of hayley after

14:31

14 minutes, 31 secondsthe divorce and he was furious that the police were called because he was just like well this is just gonna ruin my chances isn’t it and also at this time

14:38

14 minutes, 38 secondswhich truly is just so creepy sabrina started to act very motherly towards hayley the three-year-old and it wasn’t

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14 minutes, 47 secondslike a like older sister kind of motherly kind of relationship no it was basically sabrina

14:54

14 minutes, 54 secondsacting like hayley’s mom full stop she wanted to be hailey’s mom and sabrina and kevin had this little fantasy that after the divorce they would live

15:03

15 minutes, 3 secondstogether there would be a little family and they would have haley the three-year-old so obviously with sabrina acting like this this made the tension

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15 minutes, 10 secondsbetween sabrina and lisa even worse and apparently at one point lisa actually tried to kick sabrina out of the house

15:19

15 minutes, 19 secondsnow i don’t know why she wanted to kick sabrina out of the house i don’t know if it’s because of the weird relationship between sabrina and kevin or the weird

15:26

15 minutes, 26 secondsrelationship between sabrina and hailey but regardless lisa was just like yeah this is uh getting a bit too much uh

15:34

15 minutes, 34 secondssabrina needs to go but ultimately lisa didn’t kick sabrina out i think uh she was just caring wasn’t she she’s not

15:41

15 minutes, 41 secondsexactly gonna kick this vulnerable girl out of her house um even if she wanted to um so she didn’t follow through with these threats to kick out sabrina so

15:49

15 minutes, 49 secondsit’s october 2012 now and kevin and sabrina have had a sexual relationship for quite a few months now and sabrina

15:57

15 minutes, 57 secondsis heading towards her 18th birthday i know she’s not 18. it’s sometimes shocking when you remember that sabrina is a child in all of this because

16:05

16 minutes, 5 secondsobviously i know that she’s not innocent in this situation it’s just shocking isn’t it like i just have to keep reminding myself that sabrina is a child

16:13

16 minutes, 13 secondsand it’s reported that it was around this time when sabrina was almost 18 that kevin

16:19

16 minutes, 19 secondscame up with an awful plan basically kevin wanted lisa out of the picture he wanted custody of his young daughter and

16:28

16 minutes, 28 secondshe wanted lisa out of the way and he wanted to start this new fresh life with sabrina and his daughter and in order to

16:35

16 minutes, 35 secondsachieve this kevin came to the realization that the only thing that he could do was get lisa murdered by the

16:43

16 minutes, 43 secondsway i don’t know why he was planning with the other daughter megan who is the 13 year old because she is not biologically his but he’s still her

16:51

16 minutes, 51 secondsstepdad and they had still been living as a family unit for six years but he clearly has no plans for megan to join

16:59

16 minutes, 59 secondshis little family situation and kevin decided to share this horrific plan with sabrina he said that if somehow lisa

17:07

17 minutes, 7 secondswasn’t in the picture anymore then him and sabrina could build a new life together and raise haley as their own

17:14

17 minutes, 14 secondshowever custody of haley wasn’t the only motivating factor no there was a very big uh

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17 minutes, 22 secondsdriving force and i would actually say that this is the sole motive because there is no way that this man actually cares about his daughter because if he

17:30

17 minutes, 30 secondscared about his daughter he wouldn’t be planning her mother’s murder would he so i think the sole motivation of him wanting to kill lisa was because of a

17:39

17 minutes, 39 secondslife insurance policy it always comes down to money doesn’t it always kevin was set to gain around 800 000

17:46

17 minutes, 46 secondsif lisa was to die i wouldn’t be surprised i cannot confirm this because i don’t know but i wouldn’t be surprised if kevin had a real big hand in those

17:56

17 minutes, 56 secondslife insurances and having them carried out and stuff kevin even said to sabrina around this time that lisa is worth more

18:04

18 minutes, 4 secondsto him dead than alive and i just want to point out because this is so sick and disgusting when kevin and sabrina were

18:11

18 minutes, 11 secondstalking about this murder and when they were formulating their plan it was on the trips to school because kevin used to drop sabrina to school and i feel

18:19

18 minutes, 19 secondslike at this point i just need to remind you all that sabrina is his foster daughter okay so when he was driving sabrina to school every day they would

18:26

18 minutes, 26 secondstalk about the murder and their plan but they would also have sex in the car on the way to school i don’t care if you’re not biologically related i don’t care

18:35

18 minutes, 35 secondsthis is your foster daughter it’s absolutely disgusting he is one sick man it’s like he was driving her to school

18:43

18 minutes, 43 secondsshe was still in school i’m sorry you’re a 43 year old grown ass man you oh my god he’s having sex with someone that is

18:51

18 minutes, 51 secondsstill at school no because i know she’s technically 18 right now because we’re into november but i don’t care like this is just sick

18:59

18 minutes, 59 secondsand disgusting so after kevin revealed all of this plan and everything to sabrina the two of them essentially had to decide how they were gonna carry out

19:08

19 minutes, 8 secondstheir plan and this is when sabrina started to ask her friends yeah she started to ask her friends if any of

19:15

19 minutes, 15 secondsthem knew hitmen i just don’t understand it’s like surely you would be keeping this on the download you know you wouldn’t exactly be advertising this i

19:23

19 minutes, 23 secondsdon’t think she told her friends that she wanted to kill lisa i think she was just asking them if they knew any hitmen um but still like why would you

19:31

19 minutes, 31 secondswhy would you do that um so after she asked her friends if they knew any hitmen they were just like uh funnily enough no and this is when kevin asked

19:41

19 minutes, 41 secondssabrina if she could be the one to murder lisa yeah that’s right kevin wanted sabrina to do his day work for him the reason

19:50

19 minutes, 50 secondsapparently according to kevin of why he asked sabrina to murder lisa and why he didn’t want to do it is that he said

19:57

19 minutes, 57 secondsthat sabrina would more likely be able to get away with it so when kevin initially approached sabrina with this plan of her murdering lisa

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20 minutes, 6 secondsshe wasn’t like jumping for joy like she wasn’t like yeah i’ll do it straight away and i think kevin was expecting her to just agree straight away so kevin had

20:15

20 minutes, 15 secondsto come up with a plan on how to convince sabrina to murder lisa so on the morning of the 15th of november 2012

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20 minutes, 24 secondson one of the journeys to school kevin pulled over and burst into tears sabrina started asking him like what’s

20:32

20 minutes, 32 secondswrong like what is going on is everything okay and kevin told sabrina that him and lisa had had a huge argument the night before and that he

20:41

20 minutes, 41 secondswas going to commit suicide if lisa wasn’t dead he is just such a narcissist and a manipulator

20:48

20 minutes, 48 secondsit really frustrates me and sabrina was so concerned about kevin and i think it was in this moment that she became

20:55

20 minutes, 55 secondsreally concerned about kevin because she’d realized that she had fallen in love with him and she was scared that kevin might hurt himself so

21:03

21 minutes, 3 secondsunfortunately sabrina agreed to murder lisa because she was so worried that kevin would hurt himself if she didn’t

21:12

21 minutes, 12 secondsagree and i just want to point out that as soon as sabrina agreed to murder lisa those tears stopped and kevin

21:19

21 minutes, 19 secondsliterally jumped right in to telling sabrina all of the details on how the murder should go about everything kevin

21:27

21 minutes, 27 secondssaid that the murder should happen at night when lisa was sleeping and that they should try and make it look like a burglary gone wrong and kevin was

21:35

21 minutes, 35 secondsliterally coaching sabrina on how to stab lisa he was saying that once you stab her you should twist the knife when

21:44

21 minutes, 44 secondsit was in her to create the most damage possible kevin was also telling sabrina that you need to stage the crime scene

21:52

21 minutes, 52 secondsyou need to mess up the room a little bit to make it look like a burglary you also need to take some of lisa’s jewelry again to look like a burglary and if

22:00

22 minutesyou’re wondering um so what’s kevin’s role in all of this where’s kevin gonna be what’s he gonna do because right now

22:08

22 minutes, 8 secondskevin’s whole plan is for sabrina to do everything and that essentially was kevin’s plan he wanted sabrina to do everything and kevin’s plan was that he

22:17

22 minutes, 17 secondswas going to be at work remember kevin is a truck driver so it would be quite common that he would spend a couple of

22:24

22 minutes, 24 secondsdays at work and he would sometimes work through nights as well and on the night that they had planned to kill lisa this would just be conveniently one of the

22:32

22 minutes, 32 secondsnights that kevin was away at work and it’s clear to all of us but this is just so kevin would have an alibi for the murder and sabrina asked kevin like what

22:41

22 minutes, 41 secondsdo i do if i get caught and kevin just replied oh you’ll be all right just plead insanity so this conversation was said to have taken place on the morning

22:50

22 minutes, 50 secondsof the 15th of november very sadly it was later that same day on the evening that sabrina carried out this plan at 1

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22 minutes, 58 seconds15 a.m sabrina put on a ski mask picked up a 15-inch knife and made her way into

23:06

23 minutes, 6 secondslisa’s bedroom and this is when sabrina started to stab lisa but not everything

23:13

23 minutes, 13 secondswent to plan because lisa woke up straight away and she started to fight back but not only did she start to fight

23:21

23 minutes, 21 secondsback she also started to scream the screams woke up lisa’s older daughter megan the 13 year old and megan came

23:30

23 minutes, 30 secondsrunning into the bedroom and i can’t even imagine the sight that she would have seen

23:37

23 minutes, 37 secondsbecause sabrina was attacking her mother she was absolutely horrified and she phoned 9-1-1 straight away

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23 minutes, 49 seconds[Music]

24:02

24 minutes, 2 secondsmy sister the police arrived very quickly to the scene and they found sabrina still at

24:10

24 minutes, 10 secondsthe scene holding the bloody knife but tragically it was too late for lisa and she was pronounced dead at the scene it

24:18

24 minutes, 18 secondswas determined that lisa was stabbed 178 times these stab wounds were to the

24:26

24 minutes, 26 secondshead the neck the stomach as well as the arms and the legs lisa had also been stabbed in the eye there was also wounds

24:35

24 minutes, 35 secondsto lisa’s hands and these are thought to be defensive wounds because lisa was trying to fight off sabrina and two of lisa’s fingers her left pinky and her

24:44

24 minutes, 44 secondsright thumb were nearly severed off but the wounds that proved to be fatal was a stab wound to the carotid artery and

24:52

24 minutes, 52 secondsalso a stab wound to the lungs not only was lisa stabbed 178 times this was an

24:59

24 minutes, 59 secondsextremely aggressive brutal attack and several of the wounds showed that the knife had been twisted after the

25:06

25 minutes, 6 secondsstabbing and this was just as kevin instructed sabrina to do and this caused significant damage to lisa and sabrina

25:15

25 minutes, 15 secondshad twisted the knife so hard that she’d actually bent the knife sabrina as well actually did suffer quite a few wounds

25:23

25 minutes, 23 secondsfrom this attack and she actually did have to go to hospital for her wounds and this just shows how friended this attack was so the

25:31

25 minutes, 31 secondspolice of course arrested sabrina clear-cut who did this and the police start to investigate the scene and when they’re looking around

25:40

25 minutes, 40 secondsthey found hayley who is the three-year-old daughter they found hayley in the closet of lisa’s bedroom

25:47

25 minutes, 47 secondsoh my god she was there the whole time i don’t know when she got into the room clearly she was woken up by the attack i

25:55

25 minutes, 55 secondsi don’t really know but somehow hayley had ended up in the closet and she had witnessed this whole attack so the

26:02

26 minutes, 2 secondspolice take sabrina in for questioning but sabrina does not say a word it’s reported that she was actually in quite

26:11

26 minutes, 11 secondsa state of shock and following this the police had to inform kevin that his wife was murdered

26:19

26 minutes, 19 secondseven though we all know that he already knew but obviously the police don’t at this point but kevin didn’t really seem to take the news that badly i mean

26:27

26 minutes, 27 secondsshocking and when the police took kevin to the scene of the crime kevin seemed more curious

26:35

26 minutes, 35 secondsinstead of horrified and upset maybe angry would be normal emotions for one to feel but no kevin was curious and

26:42

26 minutes, 42 secondslet’s be honest kevin was only curious because he wanted to know if the police had any evidence that would incriminate him and the police noted that the whole

26:50

26 minutes, 50 secondstime that kevin was at the crime scene he was just so calm like he wasn’t disturbed at all and even when friends

26:58

26 minutes, 58 secondscame round to visit kevin to comfort him to show him support they even noticed that kevin wasn’t acting normal i mean

27:06

27 minutes, 6 secondswho’s to say how one should act when they’re grieving but kevin just didn’t seem to care at all one friend even described kevin as aloof and then

27:15

27 minutes, 15 secondsliterally hours after he found out about lisa’s murder kevin phones up the insurance company to claim the life

27:24

27 minutes, 24 secondsinsurance i mean could he literally make it any more obvious and it was at this point that kevin really gave up the

27:32

27 minutes, 32 secondsact of mourning even though he didn’t really act like he was morning but he really did give up at this point because he went on a lavish spending spree he

27:39

27 minutes, 39 secondsbought himself a new house in florida a camper van some cars some guns and he even thought that this was the perfect time to pick up a new hobby so he also

27:48

27 minutes, 48 secondsstarted flying lessons i sometimes just really struggle to understand these people because i’m like you are making it so obvious here and whilst kevin is

27:57

27 minutes, 57 secondsout living his new luxurious lavish lifestyle sabrina is in jail for a crime

28:05

28 minutes, 5 secondslet’s be real that they both committed kevin didn’t even go and visit sabrina i think he actually tried to visit her

28:12

28 minutes, 12 secondsonce but he wasn’t allowed access and then he gave up from that moment on and sabrina was expecting kevin to visit her

28:20

28 minutes, 20 secondsi mean sabrina thought that they were in this together that they would be able to get away with this and start their new

28:28

28 minutes, 28 secondslife together and i don’t think sabrina realized this right now kevin only intended for himself to start a new life

28:35

28 minutes, 35 secondshe didn’t intend for himself and sabrina to start a new life together and he fully intended to let sabrina take the fall for all of this and this went on

28:44

28 minutes, 44 secondsfor eight months where sabrina was just sat in jail and kevin was just out living his life and sabrina i’m sure she

28:52

28 minutes, 52 secondswas probably thinking oh kevin will come eventually like he will come like we’re in this together but he never did and over the eight

29:00

29 minutesmonths sabrina just got slowly more and more angry with kevin i think she was slowly waking up as well to who kevin

29:08

29 minutes, 8 secondsreally was and eventually after the eight months had passed sabrina just thought you know what screw it if i’m

29:15

29 minutes, 15 secondsgoing down he’s coming down with me so in august of 2013 sabrina tells investigators all about

29:23

29 minutes, 23 secondskevin’s involvement in the murder she also told investigators that kevin was the mastermind behind everything and how he was grooming her both emotionally and

29:32

29 minutes, 32 secondssexually since march 2012 and it was over this period where kevin was grooming her that he convinced her to

29:39

29 minutes, 39 secondsmurder lisa and following this confession from sabrina the police did go and arrest kevin and he was charged

29:46

29 minutes, 46 secondswith conspiracy to commit murder and complicity to aggravated murder as well as six counts of sexual battery the case

29:54

29 minutes, 54 secondswent to child the following year in june of 2014 sabrina was planning on pleading guilty so there wasn’t actually a trial for sabrina so it was just a trial for

30:03

30 minutes, 3 secondskevin so the trial opened and kevin basically denied everything from the get-go he never admitted anything he said that everything that sabrina said

30:12

30 minutes, 12 secondswas just a part of a big fantasy that was in sabrina’s head that he had nothing to do with lisa’s murder and he also denied having any sexual

30:19

30 minutes, 19 secondsinvolvement with sabrina as well he basically blamed the whole thing on sabrina’s mental health and the conditions that she had been diagnosed

30:27

30 minutes, 27 secondswith saying that these conditions made her unstable and this is why she committed the murder the defense also argued that there was no physical

30:36

30 minutes, 36 secondsevidence to back up the sexual relationship and i was just like well why would there be physical evidence you know like kevin is clearly he’s not

30:45

30 minutes, 45 secondsstupid i mean he is stupid but it’s like he’s gonna cover his tracks isn’t he the defense said that the only evidence of this sexual relationship was coming from

30:54

30 minutes, 54 secondssabrina so then it is the prosecution’s turn to put forward their case and of course they go into all of the details

31:02

31 minutes, 2 secondsof kevin and lisa’s relationship and how it deteriorated and also kevin and sabrina’s relationship and how it started they also went into the fact

31:10

31 minutes, 10 secondsthat people surrounding the family had started to notice that kevin and sabrina were close

31:17

31 minutes, 17 secondsweirdly close prosecution then showed the phone logs between kevin and sabrina

31:24

31 minutes, 24 secondsin the two weeks prior to the murder and in the two weeks prior to the murder sabrina and kevin had either text or

31:32

31 minutes, 32 secondscalled each other 1491 times i know

31:40

31 minutes, 40 secondsthat is excessive that’s like over a hundred a day don’t know about any of you but that seems excessive and not

31:46

31 minutes, 46 secondsnormal for an apparent father-daughter relationship they then showed on the

31:52

31 minutes, 52 secondsnight of the murder between 7pm and 1am kevin had spoken to sabrina either by text or by call

32:01

32 minutes, 1 second78 times and obviously this was between 7pm and 1am and it was 1 15 am that

32:08

32 minutes, 8 secondssabrina went in and murdered lisa unfortunately the contents of these texts and calls weren’t able to be

32:15

32 minutes, 15 secondsrecovered but um i think the sheer number alone like 78 times on the night of the murder i think is pretty damning

32:22

32 minutes, 22 secondsenough but i think it’s kevin’s actions after the death that are probably the most damning i mean he wasn’t bothered at all and so

32:31

32 minutes, 31 secondsmany people have reported that he just wasn’t bothered and it was literally only hours before he claimed lisa’s life insurance after her death and then he

32:40

32 minutes, 40 secondswent on a spending spree and that doesn’t sound like somebody that’s innocent it doesn’t it sounds like somebody that is guilty and their

32:48

32 minutes, 48 secondsmotivation for killing someone is money and then finally it was sabrina’s turn to take the stand to give her evidence

32:56

32 minutes, 56 secondsagainst kevin and to give her version of the events and she went into a lot of detail let’s just say i just

33:04

33 minutes, 4 secondsmassages in our thighs and it progressively got more up into the generals we get into the car

33:12

33 minutes, 12 secondsand i would give him a job she talks about the grooming in quite a lot of detail she talks about how kevin manipulated

33:20

33 minutes, 20 secondsher and convinced her to murder lisa the insurance money would basically form this uh happily ever after life for me and

33:28

33 minutes, 28 secondshim why did you do that because i was doing what i was told to do right and who told you to do that

33:36

33 minutes, 36 secondskevin and once sabrina had given her testimony the jury did go away and after nine and

33:43

33 minutes, 43 secondsa half hours the jury found kevin guilty of all charges so that was six counts of sexual battery three counts of

33:52

33 minutes, 52 secondscomplicity to commit murder and two counts of conspiracy to commit murder and kevin knefel was sentenced to life

33:59

33 minutes, 59 secondsin prison with a minimum of 30 years before he is eligible for parole sabrina after her guilty plea was also sentenced

34:07

34 minutes, 7 secondsto life in prison with a minimum of 30 years until she is eligible for parole during the trial friends and family of

34:14

34 minutes, 14 secondslisa were given the chance to stand up and actually give a statement and 13 year old megan’s biological father nick

34:21

34 minutes, 21 secondsdid stand up in trial to give his victim statement and nick called kevin a piece

34:27

34 minutes, 27 secondsof crap i’d like to say lisa we miss you and uh

34:35

34 minutes, 35 secondsyou kevin what a piece of crap yes mr zano i realize your emotions are great but i

34:43

34 minutes, 43 secondswould ask that you please restrain yourself and just address them you are a weak individual direction your honor this is an okay thing

34:52

34 minutes, 52 secondsand can you believe he actually got told off for doing this it’s like oh my god i get it i know that there’s courtroom rules and stuff like that and you have

35:01

35 minutes, 1 secondto abide by them but it’s like this man is responsible for the murder of his daughter’s mother

35:09

35 minutes, 9 secondslet him call him a piece of crap and he actually got kicked out of the courtroom for this and then seven years after the trial literally this year sabrina sat

35:18

35 minutes, 18 secondsdown to give an interview from behind bars where she gave a full account of exactly what happened and she also made

35:26

35 minutes, 26 secondsan apology for what she had done and i know it doesn’t change anything i know it doesn’t change what she has done but i think her apology is pretty genuine

35:35

35 minutes, 35 secondslike she does actually seem quite remorseful doesn’t change anything he doesn’t change the fact that she did murder somebody she still went along with kevin’s plan she was still the one

35:45

35 minutes, 45 secondswith her own hands that did take lisa’s life and she stabbed lisa 178 times which is crazy overkill like

35:54

35 minutes, 54 secondsthat is just so much rage in that attack and that would have taken quite a long time as well that is not a short attack by any means that attack is filled with

36:03

36 minutes, 3 secondsrage and anger and of course we know that sabrina did used to suffer with anger problems when she was growing up and it does just seem like she was so

36:11

36 minutes, 11 secondsangry and she was just channeling all of that into the attack on lisa i can’t imagine why sabrina would have been that angry

36:21

36 minutes, 21 secondsat lisa i i just can’t so it’s it’s like she had just bottled up all of this anger and was taking it out on lisa i

36:28

36 minutes, 28 secondsmean i don’t know but something fueled that rage that anger for her to stab lisa 178 times like that is just crazy

36:37

36 minutes, 37 secondsoverkill and it was just so personal as well and it’s really hard this case to say how much kevin manipulated sabrina i

36:45

36 minutes, 45 secondsdo think he did manipulate sabrina but by how much we don’t know i do think that kevin is equally responsible in this murder along with sabrina i know he

36:54

36 minutes, 54 secondsdidn’t take lisa’s life with his own hands but if it wasn’t for kevin’s plans and kevin’s manipulation i

37:01

37 minutes, 1 secondcan’t see sabrina murdering lisa on her own accord if that makes sense and it doesn’t change the fact that kevin was in the position of power he was the

37:09

37 minutes, 9 secondsfoster dad which oh god it’s just disgusting isn’t it because i do tend to forget that he was her foster dad and he completely abused

37:18

37 minutes, 18 secondsthat power and sabrina with her childhood she had grown up not really knowing what love was she was desperate

37:25

37 minutes, 25 secondsfor love and kevin prayed on that he knew that and he showed sabrina what sabrina thought was love and sabrina

37:32

37 minutes, 32 secondsfell for it obviously the main victim in all of this of course is lisa she dedicated her life to helping people

37:39

37 minutes, 39 secondsthat were victims of sex crimes and it’s just a cruel twist of irony that lisa was killed by a

37:47

37 minutes, 47 secondsvictim of a sex crime and i also hope that lisa’s two daughters megan and haley are okay doing as best as one can

37:56

37 minutes, 56 secondswith a situation like this and along with lisa i think we need to remember that hayley and megan are also the main

38:03

38 minutes, 3 secondsvictims of this story because now they don’t have a mother their mother was taken away from them far too soon and they shouldn’t have to grow up without

38:12

38 minutes, 12 secondsthem or that but because of sabrina and kevin’s actions they are and my thoughts are with them and i just hope they’re

38:19

38 minutes, 19 secondsdoing okay and that is the end of today’s case and it is just a complete sad one all round it’s horrible as always let me know your thoughts

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