Kruse Wellwood and Cameron Moffat Video

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Kruse Wellwood And Cameron Moffat Video Transcript

Kruse Wellwood and Cameron Moffat Video Transcript

0:00MSN was one of the earliest social  media networks that allowed friends   to stay connected, no matter where they were. But as with any great new invention,

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9 secondssoon we would see its Dark Side. People  used the platform to discuss sinister  

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14 secondsand even criminal things, such as the case  with this story. The murder of 18 year old  

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21 secondsKimberly Proctor. Her Killers planned and  fantasised about her murder over MSN, long 

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27 secondsbefore they actually went through with it and  they even continued using the site afterwards,   to support their fake alibis. Today we’re going  to be discussing the case of the MSN killers.

0:41

41 secondsBefore we get into the case, I want to thank June’s  Journey for sponsoring this video. If you’ve been   around on this channel for a while, then you know  that we go way back with June’s Journey. It was one  

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1 minute, 36 secondsnot scary, it’s very relaxing. It’s like a little  self-care moment for me in my routine, I love  

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2 minutes, 10 secondsJourney for free. Thanks again to June’s Journey  for sponsoring this video. Before we get into the   case, I want to give my usual disclaimer that I’m  in absolutely no disrespect to anyone that I talk  

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2 minutes, 20 secondsabout in this video. This video is for educational  purposes and everything that I’m about to say is  

2:25

2 minutes, 25 secondsjust information that I have found on the internet  and I’m compiling into one video. There are a few   content warnings for this case so if any of the  following topics are things that you don’t want to  

2:36

2 minutes, 36 secondshear about right now, please do click out before we  get into this. Today we’re going to be discussing   themes of rape, sexual assault, bullying and ADHD  and anxiety and that causing a lot of problems, I guess.

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2 minutes, 49 secondsSo like I said if any of that is something  that you don’t want to hear about, click out now,   look after yourself, hopefully I’ll get to see  you again some other time. But with all of that  

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2 minutes, 57 secondsbeing said, let’s get into the case. So today’s  case takes place in Canada in a place called  

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3 minutes, 3 secondsLangford in British Columbia. That’s where Kimberly  Proctor was born on January 1st, New Year’s Day of  

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3 minutes, 9 seconds1992 to her parents Fred and Lucy. Langford  was a very nice place for the Proctor family  

3:16

3 minutes, 16 secondsto be settling down and raising a family. It was  very friendly, it was very safe, it was just very  

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3 minutes, 23 secondscomfy and cozy, it was just a nice place. The  Proctors were very happy there, they were a  

3:29

3 minutes, 29 secondsvery very happy family and Kimberly grew up to be  a very happy girl. She was very smiley, you know one  

3:35

3 minutes, 35 secondsof those kids that’s just always bouncing about  really positive, she was that kid. She was very fun   loving, she was very people loving and very animal  loving. Oh my God, was she very animal loving.

3:48

3 minutes, 48 secondsShe was such an empathetic person to a point where she  would want to adopt every and any animal she saw  

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3 minutes, 56 secondsand in her house, they’d had one hell of a zoo over  the years. They’d had rabbits, hamsters, guinea pigs  

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4 minutes, 2 secondseven like reptiles, lizards. Kim was just obsessed  with animals, she loved them and one day she  

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4 minutes, 9 secondsdreamed of going on to work an animal sanctuary,  as a job. She wanted to be surrounded by animals  

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4 minutes, 15 secondsat all times. Kim was just a very loving and  lovable person and she seemed to have a very happy  

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4 minutes, 23 secondschildhood at home, she had a very happy home life  but the same unfortunately can’t be said about her  

4:31

4 minutes, 31 secondsschool life. She experienced a lot of bullying  from her peers which always made her feel very   isolated, very rejected and that over a prolonged  period of time is very damaging to children.

4:44

4 minutes, 44 secondsAnd that’s hard enough to deal with on its own, is  bullying and not feeling accepted but on top  

4:51

4 minutes, 51 secondsof that, Kim had the added struggle of having ADHD  and it really really affected her studies. The way  

4:58

4 minutes, 58 secondsthat hers particularly manifested was in a lot of  anxiety, she would get very overstimulated   in like big crowds and big groups of people,  she found school very very challenging.

5:10

5 minutes, 10 secondsJust the concept of being in one big building with  like hundreds of people every day, it was  

5:16

5 minutes, 16 secondsa lot for Kim. And she also struggled a lot with  the attention deficit side of ADHD, she was very  

5:23

5 minutes, 23 secondseasily distracted in class, she would lose focus  quite a lot. As time was going on, this was getting  

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5 minutes, 30 secondseven worse. It was getting to the point where  Kim was barely even passing classes. She was  

5:36

5 minutes, 36 secondsgetting in trouble a lot because she was so easily  distracted and the teachers would tell her off and  

5:41

5 minutes, 41 secondseveryone knew that something needed to be done.  Her teachers, her parents even Kim herself knew  

5:47

5 minutes, 47 secondsthat she couldn’t carry on this way. So her parents  took her to a doctor about her ADHD and she was  

5:54

5 minutes, 54 secondsprescribed some medication that was supposed to  help her, she took it for a little while but her  

5:59

5 minutes, 59 secondsparents said that it just zombied her out. She  wasn’t the same girl that she was before, she  

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6 minutes, 5 secondswasn’t as bright and enthusiastic and you know,  she wasn’t Kim. She was maybe a little bit  

6:11

6 minutes, 11 secondseasier to focus but she wasn’t Kim. All in  all, it wasn’t worth putting her on this medication  

6:18

6 minutes, 18 secondsthat made her a shell of the woman that she once  was. It wasn’t an option for her to stay on this  

6:25

6 minutes, 25 secondsmedication so they began thinking about what they  could do for Plan B. And that was when the decision  

6:30

6 minutes, 30 secondswas made to move Kim out of that school and into  a specialist school that could probably help her  

6:37

6 minutes, 37 secondsa lot more than her state school could. These  specialist schools are for any kid that might  

6:44

6 minutes, 44 secondsneed a little bit of extra attention or care  and that could mean something different for   every child that goes to that school. For Kim  it’s her ADHD, she needs a little bit more of  

6:54

6 minutes, 54 secondsthe teacher’s attention and their time to help her  through things. There were other kids in there that   struggled with behavioural issues, other kids that  had like learning disabilities or even physical  

7:04

7 minutes, 4 secondsdisabilities that meant that they couldn’t, you  know flourish in a public school and so there were  

7:11

7 minutes, 11 secondsso many people from all different walks of life,  in Kim’s new school. Kim settled in pretty quickly  

7:18

7 minutes, 18 secondsat this new school, she was a friendly  nice girl so naturally, she got on with people  

7:24

7 minutes, 24 secondsquite well. But there was another group of kids  in this school, I think I touched on it earlier  

7:30

7 minutes, 30 secondswhen I said the kids with behavioural issues but  sometimes it even went beyond that. It was the  

7:37

7 minutes, 37 secondsviolent kids, the aggressive kids, the ones that had  outbursts and hurt other people. And so, honestly it  

7:45

7 minutes, 45 secondswas quite hard for Kim to navigate making friends  in this new school but she felt that she was doing  

7:51

7 minutes, 51 secondsa good job and she had, you know, a good couple  of people around her at this point and she felt  

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7 minutes, 57 secondsconfident in her schoolwork, things were really  looking up for her. So Kim’s main friend group,  

8:03

8 minutes, 3 secondswe don’t know absolutely everyone in this friend  group, we kind of only really know the ones that  

8:08

8 minutes, 8 secondsare involved in this case. But from what I can tell  the core friend group, at least that we’re going to  

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8 minutes, 14 secondsbe talking about today was Kim and three boys. A  boy named Zach, a boy named Cruz and a boy named  

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8 minutes, 21 secondsCameron, we’ll start with Cruz. He was a couple of  years younger than Kim, Kim was about 18 when she  

8:29

8 minutes, 29 secondswas in this school and Cruz was 16, he was one of  the youngest in their friend group, but he was also  

8:35

8 minutes, 35 secondskind of like the ringleader. He was the confident  one, the cocky one, the one that kind of called the  

8:41

8 minutes, 41 secondsshots and he was also one of those aforementioned  bad kids. Well it’s actually really sad because  

8:48

8 minutes, 48 secondsCruz came from a very bad home. He was neglected  as a child, both of his parents were neglectful of  

8:55

8 minutes, 55 secondshim and he really didn’t get everything he needed  as he was growing up. And this is kind of a common  

9:01

9 minutes, 1 secondtheme throughout this case, where someone will  grow up to be a bad person but they have had a  

9:08

9 minutes, 8 secondstraumatic or terrible childhood and it’s that  really sticky feeling between sympathy and you  

9:17

9 minutes, 17 secondsalso want to be like, I feel no sympathy for you at  all, you are a horrible criminal. But yeah just to  

9:22

9 minutes, 22 secondswarn you, that will be a a common thing throughout  this case. Cruz had quite a terrible childhood, he  

9:28

9 minutes, 28 secondswas neglected by both his parents, his father ended  up walking out on them and then it was just his  

9:33

9 minutes, 33 secondsmum from that point on and she didn’t look after  him properly either. And as Cruz got older, he held  

9:40

9 minutes, 40 secondsa lot of resentment towards his mother especially  and he became abusive to his own mother, at the  

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9 minutes, 47 secondsage of like 14/15/16. He was shouting at her,  hitting her, he was regularly abusive with her.  

9:54

9 minutes, 54 secondsBut actually one thing I haven’t mentioned yet is  that Cruz’s own father was a convicted murderer.  

10:00

10 minutesIt’s an absolutely horrid story, as well. His father  was called Robert Desmond and he- I think kidnapped,  

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10 minutes, 8 secondsraped and murdered a 16 year old girl named  Cherish Oppenheim. He beat her to death, physically  

10:15

10 minutes, 15 secondsbeat her to death with his own hands and then left  her body on the side of a road covered in rocks  

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10 minutes, 21 secondsand she was eventually found, just ditched on the  side of this road. He was caught for murder, very  

10:27

10 minutes, 27 secondsquickly after he committed this and when Cruz was  seven years old, his father was jailed for murder.  

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10 minutes, 33 secondsAnd he would write to Cruz from prison here and  there and Cruz would respond a little bit, but by  

10:39

10 minutes, 39 secondsthe age of 12, he’d completely cut off his father.  He hated his father for what he’d done to that  

10:46

10 minutes, 46 secondsgirl. He hated that his father was a murderer, he  thought he was disgusting. And so by the age of   12 he completely cut him off, no longer wrote any  letters to him, that’s it. His father was dead to him.

10:56

10 minutes, 56 secondsAnd that’s only one of the very many heinous  things that Cruz’s father has done, he came from a  

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11 minutes, 3 secondsvery bad egg. His dad was done for like robberies,  multiple rapes, home invasions. This man just had  

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11 minutes, 10 secondsno respect for anyone. And although he wasn’t in  Cruz’s life for very long up until the age of  

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11 minutes, 16 secondsseven, you can imagine that that attitude and his  reactions to things probably definitely rubbed off  

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11 minutes, 24 secondson his son. Everyone that ever met Cruz Wellwood  said that he was a very rude and disrespectful and  

11:33

11 minutes, 33 secondsmean child and not like in an oblivious kid  way, you know where they’re a bit rude and they forget  

11:39

11 minutes, 39 secondstheir manners and whatever just because they’re  a kid and they’re busy being a kid. No not Cruz, he  

11:44

11 minutes, 44 secondswas like intentionally a little a**eh**le. He was very  arrogant, he had delusions of grandeur over anyone  

11:53

11 minutes, 53 secondsand anything. He thought he was like the smartest,  coolest s**t to ever walk this Earth and  

11:59

11 minutes, 59 secondseveryone else was below him. In fact the only other  kid that could ever come close to Cruz and even  

12:05

12 minutes, 5 secondsthen, it weren’t even close, but the only person  that ever came close was his best friend Cameron,  

12:11

12 minutes, 11 secondswho was also a part of Kim’s friendship group.  Cameron Moffatt was a year older than Cruz but  

12:16

12 minutes, 16 secondsa year younger than Kim, he was 17 years old and  he was also a bad kid but he too had a very tragic  

12:24

12 minutes, 24 secondsbackstory, a very tragic childhood. At the age of  three years old, Cameron was sexually assaulted.  

12:31

12 minutes, 31 secondsHis family said that ever since that incident at  the age of three, Cameron had never been the same  

12:37

12 minutes, 37 secondsagain. Ever since he was traumatised by this he  became, what they’re described as a difficult child.  

12:45

12 minutes, 45 secondsAnd I suppose this is more so where that  conflict of sympathy feeling comes in because  

12:51

12 minutes, 51 secondsCameron wasn’t looked after. For this to  have happened in the first place and then in the  

12:57

12 minutes, 57 secondsaftermath of him dealing with the trauma of being  sexually assaulted as a toddler, he didn’t have  

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13 minutes, 4 secondshelp around him really. But in that same breath we  need to acknowledge that trauma is not an excuse  

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13 minutes, 10 secondsfor treating people so heinously. So many people go  through such traumatic things in their childhood  

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13 minutes, 18 secondsand throughout their whole lives and they never  turn out like this. Trauma in your childhood does  

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13 minutes, 26 secondsnot have to lead to you being a murderer, you make  that decision somewhere along the way.

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13 minutes, 31 secondsAnd trust me, Cruz and Cameron had made the decision to be  s**t people, a long time ago. They were two little  

13:38

13 minutes, 38 secondsbullies, they were violent, they were aggressive,  they would beat up other kids in school. One of  

13:44

13 minutes, 44 secondsthem even beat up a kid with a bike chain, was like  hitting him over the head with a bike chain, split   his head open. They’d broken other kids noses, they  were just like always picking fights. They were  

13:54

13 minutes, 54 secondsthose like insecure boys on the playground that  were always looking to establish their dominance  

13:59

13 minutes, 59 secondsagainst anyone. And what didn’t help was that the  boys were often drunk. At 16 and 17 years old, they  

14:06

14 minutes, 6 secondswould find access to alcohol and drink it most  days, sometimes even in school. They would drink so  

14:14

14 minutes, 14 secondsmuch, to the point where Cruz actually got alcohol  poisoning one night. He was sent to hospital and   had to have like- he was like hooked up to all them  wires and everything! He had to be like flushed  

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14 minutes, 24 secondsout! And it didn’t even stop at alcohol, they were  doing all kinds of other drugs, as well. They would  

14:29

14 minutes, 29 secondsdo like psychedelics like LSD and then they would  do like synthetics. Cocaine, ketamine. They would mix  

14:36

14 minutes, 36 secondsall of these things- it’s so scary to hear how  these boys were living at 16! They would often  

14:43

14 minutes, 43 secondsskip school to be able to drink and do drugs like,  literally just 2 p.m on a Tuesday, two boys doing  

14:51

14 minutes, 51 secondsMDMA in their houses while their parents are at  work. Doing different substances really just took  

14:57

14 minutes, 57 secondsup most of these boys free time. Well, whenever they  were together in person, they were always on some  

15:03

15 minutes, 3 secondssort of drug or drinking but when they weren’t  together, they would be connected online. They would  

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15 minutes, 9 secondsbe messaging on MSN or on World of Warcraft, they  both really liked World of Warcraft and so they’d  

15:15

15 minutes, 15 secondslike- they’d be doing the, you know, the in in-game  messaging feature. Oh my God, I sound so old.  

15:22

15 minutes, 22 secondsI’m just not- I just don’t do gaming, you know? But you  know what, one thing about Cruz and Cameron, they  

15:27

15 minutes, 27 secondsreally give me kind of like George and Lenny vibes  from Of Mice and Men, but not quite so. So basically,  

15:34

15 minutes, 34 secondsCruz was the smaller, younger leader with like  his wits about him and all that, he’s like the  

15:41

15 minutes, 41 secondsmastermind of everything. Cameron was supposedly  the slower one of the two but he was still, don’t  

15:47

15 minutes, 47 secondsget me wrong he was still aggressive, violent  and very much feeding in to all of this. 

15:54

15 minutes, 54 secondsHe wasn’t like a dopey sidekick by any means. So  that was Kimberly’s friend group, I did mention  

16:00

16 minutesa third boy his name was Zach but we don’t know  all that much about Zach. He doesn’t come into   play with this case all that much. But when  Kimberly first moved to this school, she makes  

16:11

16 minutes, 11 secondsfriends with these three boys and she especially  likes Zach. The two of them quickly started dating  

16:18

16 minutes, 18 secondsbut it really didn’t last very long at all.  After a few months I think Zach broke it off   with Kim and Kim was pretty upset about this, I  think this was like her first proper boyfriend  

16:29

16 minutes, 29 secondsand so this was her first like proper breakup.  She was really upset, she was going to all of  

16:34

16 minutes, 34 secondsher friends for comfort and advice and that  included Cruz and Cameron and specifically 

16:40

16 minutes, 40 secondsCameron Moffett decided to use this opportunity to  get closer to Kim. He was gonna use her vulnerable  

16:48

16 minutes, 48 secondsstate, she’s upset, she’s come to a friend for  comfort. He was gonna use that to try and slide  

16:54

16 minutes, 54 secondsin and try and you know, shoot his shot with Kim.  After she is literally just broken up with one  

17:00

17 minutesof his best friends, he is immediately trying it  on with her. He was calling her beautiful and  one thing about Kim is that she was a little bit  insecure and so she starts, you know like kind of  

17:11

17 minutes, 11 secondsbuffing off these things, she’s like oh no I’m not  beautiful. She would say oh I’m this, I’m that, she   would be like quite mean about herself. And Cameron  would be like, no I haven’t seen many beautiful  

17:21

17 minutes, 21 secondsthings but you’re definitely one of them. What a  weird way to say that, by the way. But honestly Kim  

17:27

17 minutes, 27 secondswasn’t all that interested in Cameron Moffett,  she was more interested in Cruz. And both  

17:34

17 minutes, 34 secondsof them were trying it on with her! Literally  both of them, Zach is both of their friend, he  

17:40

17 minutes, 40 secondsjust breaks up with his girlfriend and they both  bluming jump on her. So separately on MSN, Kim  

17:48

17 minutes, 48 secondshas a tab open with a chat with Cruz, where he’s  flirting with her and a chat with Cameron, where  

17:54

17 minutes, 54 secondshe’s flirting with her. And both boys were pretty  relentless with it like, it was clear that   they had been waiting for this opportunity to  to try it on with Kim. But actually I say this,  

18:04

18 minutes, 4 secondsCameron Moffett had been trying it with Kim, even  when she was still with Zach. 

18:10

18 minutes, 10 secondsEven when she was still dating one of his best friends,  he was messaging her inviting her to a party in  

18:17

18 minutes, 17 secondshis pants and stuff like that! It was- it was crazy  the way that he was talking to his best friend’s   girlfriend. He would text Kim euphemisms, you know  about this party in his pants right, he would say  

18:27

18 minutes, 27 secondsthat uh she’s on the VIP guest list and it’s just  them two on it. Eugh he was so cringe, you’ll actually  

18:34

18 minutes, 34 secondsthrow up listening to all of this. He would also  say that there was going to be candy at the   party, there was going to be a lollipop with  cream in it and and when you lick the lollipop  

18:45

18 minutes, 45 secondsthe cream will come out. Eugh! It’s gross listening  to these like 17 year olds flirt on MSN. And he was

18:51

18 minutes, 51 secondssaying all of this to Kim while she was with  Zach, so we’re just taking it back a little bit   to before they broke up. Cameron was relentless  with the flirting throughout, he was saying all  

19:01

19 minutes, 1 secondof this while she was still with Zach and Kim doesn’t really play along with it. I mean this is  

19:07

19 minutes, 7 secondsher boyfriend’s friend, so she’s trying to like  humour him but not play into it too much. So she’d be  

19:14

19 minutes, 14 secondslike, oh what kind of party only has two people,  you know, she’s not completely rejecting him and   turning him down because sometimes that’s scary  to do as a woman, you don’t- especially when you  

19:24

19 minutes, 24 secondsknow that he is quite a violent boy and he’s  been a bully to other kids in the school and   now all of a sudden he’s like trying it on with  you, that’s just the joys of being a woman isn’t  

19:33

19 minutes, 33 secondsit? Sometimes you have to play along because you’re  scared and I don’t know if that’s exactly what Kim   was doing but she was trying to like semi-humour  him without playing into it too much. And Cameron  

19:43

19 minutes, 43 secondswas so relentless that in the end, she did have to  kind of put her foot down and she was like, look   I’m not comfortable with how you’re speaking  to me. I don’t know exactly how she worded it  

19:52

19 minutes, 52 secondsto him but he didn’t take it well. His response to  her like actually asking him to stop for once was  

20:00

20 minutesto blackmail her. Cameron threatened to send Zach  the messages that they’d been sending each other  

20:07

20 minutes, 7 secondsearlier, you know where he’s like come to a party  in my pants and she’s like what kind of party is   only for two people. He threatened to send all of  that to her boyfriend at the time and Kim panicked.  

20:19

20 minutes, 19 secondsI don’t know how the blackmail ended I don’t  think he sent the chats to her boyfriend, I think   it was a bit of an empty threat and besides Kim  hadn’t exactly like cheated on her boyfriend, so…  

20:30

20 minutes, 30 secondsAnyway. Cruz and Cameron would treat Kim as if  she was like their designated girl in the  

20:39

20 minutes, 39 secondsgroup that they could just gawk over and you  know treat a bit s**t. That’s kind of the vibe  

20:45

20 minutes, 45 secondsthat I’ve gotten from all of this, the boys would  relentlessly flirt with her like I said and they   would they would be rather vulgar about it. They  would just like straight up message her out of  

20:54

20 minutes, 54 secondsnowhere and ask for tit pics and it’s like, that’s  not respectful that’s- especially not to someone  

21:01

21 minutes, 1 secondthat you call a friend, that you go into school  every day and see and speak to her and ask how  

21:06

21 minutes, 6 secondstheir weekend was and all of that but then when  it comes to a sexual element in your relationship,   you can’t be respectful, you just tit pics please!  Barely even a please! Did they even say please, I  

21:16

21 minutes, 16 secondsdon’t know? I don’t think so. Literally everyone  in the school knew how weird Cameron and Cruz  

21:22

21 minutes, 22 secondswere at this point like, they made no attempt to  mask their weirdness. The two of them would drink  

21:29

21 minutes, 29 secondsblood! They were drinking each other’s blood outside  of school and then they would come into school   and like, brag about it. They also bragged about  drinking other bodily fluids and I don’t know  

21:39

21 minutes, 39 secondswhat those fluids were, the articles that I read  only said other bodily fluids which makes it feel  

21:46

21 minutes, 46 secondsvery rancid. That is- there’s not that many other  bodily fluids to pick from and they’re all gross so…  

21:52

21 minutes, 52 secondsSo now that Kimberly’s broken up with Zach  and Cameron and Cruz are relentlessly in her DMs,  

21:59

21 minutes, 59 secondsshe actually gives Cruz a bit of a chance. She’d  always had like a little bit of a thing for him  

22:05

22 minutes, 5 secondsbut obviously preferred her boyfriend Zach but  now that that was over, she decided to feed into  

22:11

22 minutes, 11 secondsthis little crush that she’d had on Cruz in  the past. So I think the two of them went on a  

22:16

22 minutes, 16 secondscouple of date but it wasn’t- they could both kind  of tell that it wasn’t gonna be a thing, it wasn’t  

22:22

22 minutes, 22 secondsreally gonna work out with them. Eventually Cruz  broke up with her but it was hardly even a breakup  

22:28

22 minutes, 28 secondsbecause they weren’t together and he hardly  even broke up with her. It was just like, all  

22:34

22 minutes, 34 secondsof a sudden one day he just started being really  mean to her out of nowhere. Just like absolutely   horrible to her. Some of the messages that they  would send to Kimberly were just so cruel.

22:46

22 minutes, 46 secondsI’ve read through so many message transcripts  as I’ve been researching for this video and  

22:52

22 minutes, 52 secondshonestly it like, it was really like choking me  up, I was like how can this girl’s two friends  

22:59

22 minutes, 59 secondsthat she has trusted for months just turn on her  and start speaking to her like this. They would-   because they know her better than anyone they  knew all of her insecurities, they knew what really  

23:09

23 minutes, 9 secondstriggered and what really upset her and they were  intentionally going for those soft spots. And they  

23:16

23 minutes, 16 secondswould joke about her greatest insecurities you  know her appearance and things like that but they   would do it in a semi-jokey way, so then when she  was like oh stop it like it’s upsetting me, they  

23:27

23 minutes, 27 secondscan be like oh it’s just a joke, you can’t take a  joke? Oh! There was one particularly really bad like  

23:32

23 minutes, 32 secondsperiod of this bullying I guess, call it what it is  it was bullying towards Kim. There was one really  

23:38

23 minutes, 38 secondsbad period where her rabbit had just died and the  boys really used this to get to her, of course it  

23:44

23 minutes, 44 secondswas a weak spot of hers at this point in time and  they would say things like, your rabbit deserved to  

23:50

23 minutes, 50 secondsdie, you deserve nothing, you killed it. They would  taunt her, telling her that she had killed her own  

23:56

23 minutes, 56 secondsrabbit, she was the reason that her own beloved pet  was dead. And Kim was way too nice with these boys  

24:03

24 minutes, 3 secondsall the way through this like, as I was reading the  message transcripts I so badly wanted her to like  

24:09

24 minutes, 9 secondsfight her corner but she would just take all of  this abuse from them. The most that she would do  

24:15

24 minutes, 15 secondsto stick up for herself was ask them why they were  being so mean to her and to this they would have a  

24:21

24 minutes, 21 secondsdifferent response like, every single time. There  were so many reasons why they were so mean to   her. One time, one particular transcript that I read,  she’d message this to Cruz on MSN said why are you  

24:31

24 minutes, 31 secondsalways so mean to me? And he didn’t respond and so  she messaged again saying well, are you going to answer? 

24:37

24 minutes, 37 secondsAnd he finally responded then saying, I was talking  to someone more important than you. Honestly I  

24:43

24 minutes, 43 secondsdon’t care enough to pick on you. If I was picking  on you, I would have torn you apart mentally- you  

24:48

24 minutes, 48 secondswould probably kill yourself. Do you see now what  I mean by how cruel these boys were! They treated  

24:55

24 minutes, 55 secondsher so awfully, it was more so Cruz than it  was Cameron but it was both of them and both of  

25:01

25 minutes, 1 secondthem supported each other, throughout all of this.  After about a month or so of this horrific abuse,  

25:07

25 minutes, 7 secondsCruz reached out to Kim on MSN and just asked her  what she was up to that day and she said not much,  

25:14

25 minutes, 14 secondsshe had like a free day up until like 3 P.M  when she had to babysit for her mum. And Cruz said  

25:19

25 minutes, 19 secondsokay good um, I was kind of hoping that you would  be free today because I want to hang out and I  

25:25

25 minutes, 25 secondswant to apologise. That was all he said, he wasn’t  specific in that message um about what he wanted  

25:32

25 minutes, 32 secondsto apologise for. We can kind of presume that it’s  the way that he’s been treating her but he wasn’t   specific. And Kim was happy to hear this at first,  she was happy to receive this message but then all  

25:42

25 minutes, 42 secondsof a sudden suspicion starts creeping in and she’s  thinking well, why why does he all of a sudden want  

25:49

25 minutes, 49 secondsto apologise? Why- where has this come from? She  told him that, she told him that she couldn’t   help but feel like this was all a bit sudden, it  was coming out of nowhere and she would feel a  

25:58

25 minutes, 58 secondslot more comfortable in if they could talk on the  phone first, before they meet up in person. And Cruz  

26:04

26 minutes, 4 secondssaid okay and the two of them had a phone call. So  obviously we don’t know exactly what was said in  

26:10

26 minutes, 10 secondsthis phone call because well, it wasn’t recorded so  we don’t have that information. But what we do have  

26:16

26 minutes, 16 secondsis some text messages between Cruz and Cameron  right, because when Cruz was on the phone to Kim, he  

26:24

26 minutes, 24 secondssecretly without Kim’s knowledge, merged the call  with one with Cameron. So now all three of them are  

26:31

26 minutes, 31 secondson the same phone call but Kim has no idea that  Cameron is now listening in to this very personal  

26:38

26 minutes, 38 secondsconversation that she’s about to have with Cruz. So  about halfway through this phone call, Cameron and  

26:43

26 minutes, 43 secondsCruz start messaging and they’re kind of talking  about the conversation that’s being had out loud  

26:48

26 minutes, 48 secondson the phone and because we don’t have the context  of the actual phone call, these messages can be a  

26:54

26 minutes, 54 secondslittle bit confusing but you can get the general  sense of it and the general sense is that it’s   very f**king disturbing and gross. Cruz messaged  Cameron saying I’m gonna rip her nose ring out and  

27:05

27 minutes, 5 secondsburn it. Burn her flesh. I’m not killing her right  away. Cameron replied, why not keep her bound and  

27:12

27 minutes, 12 secondsalive? And Cruz responded, that’s what I need to do-  but I need to get her stoned first and possibly  

27:18

27 minutes, 18 secondsseduce her. Cameron replied LOL, try quickly. They  decided that they were going to murder Kimberly  

27:26

27 minutes, 26 secondsProctor and I don’t know who the first one was  to mention this, I don’t know if it was mentioned  

27:33

27 minutes, 33 secondspreviously in person but this is the first mention  of it that we have in this case. They decided that  

27:40

27 minutes, 40 secondsboth of them would be present for the murder but  it would be Cruz that initiated it. He was going  

27:46

27 minutes, 46 secondsto decide when they were ready and he was going to  be the one to say the code phrase. This code phrase  

27:52

27 minutes, 52 secondsas soon as it was uttered, that was both of the  boy’s signal to start killing their friend Kim.  

27:59

27 minutes, 59 secondsThis code for his was ‘I’m gonna make some KD.’  KD is short for Kraft mac and cheese dinner in  

28:07

28 minutes, 7 secondsCanada. Uh so that was the code word, I’m gonna make  some KD was when they were gonna snap into action  

28:13

28 minutes, 13 secondsand murder their friend. In the messages, the boys  went on to discuss the idea of robbing her, maybe?  

28:20

28 minutes, 20 secondsI think it was Cameron that was the one that  suggested this like, if she has anything on her   we should rob her, we should take everything. So  on that phone call, Kim and Cruz agreed to meet  

28:29

28 minutes, 29 secondsup on the morning of March 18 2010. They planned  to just talk things out, talk about their issues   and maybe come to some resolve. But little did Kim  know, that wasn’t what Cruz was planning to do at all.

28:43

28 minutes, 43 secondsShe told him that she would have to be home  for three o’clock because she was babysitting for   her mum and he said that’s absolutely fine like,  that he just wanted to talk to her so it would  

28:52

28 minutes, 52 secondsonly take the morning. So the three of them all  got the bus to Langford bus exchange and they all  

28:57

28 minutes, 57 secondsmet up there and then they decided to walk back to  Cruz’s house. Almost immediately after arriving  

29:03

29 minutes, 3 secondsin the empty home, the boys put this evil plan into  action. The code phrase was said and suddenly Kim’s  

29:12

29 minutes, 12 secondsbest friends turned on her. They grabbed her, they  started pushing her around, taunting her. One of  

29:19

29 minutes, 19 secondsthem grabbed some ties and started tying up her  wrists and her ankles, binding her up. They then  

29:25

29 minutes, 25 secondsgrabbed a ball of socks, stuffed it into Kimberly’s  mouth and then put duct tape over the top of it to  

29:32

29 minutes, 32 secondsgag her. So now she couldn’t scream, she couldn’t do  or say anything and now that Kimberly wouldn’t be  

29:38

29 minutes, 38 secondsable to alert for help, the boys got even worse.  They started beating her, punching her, kicking  

29:45

29 minutes, 45 secondsher, slapping her, doing absolutely anything they  could to cause harm to her, they just wanted to see  

29:51

29 minutes, 51 secondsher in pain. They were using her like a punching  bag, they were experimenting with all different  

29:57

29 minutes, 57 secondstypes of torture. One of them grabbed a knife  and started mutilating her, they were inserting  

30:04

30 minutes, 4 secondsdifferent things inside of her vagina and her  anus, literally things out of the garbage, 

30:10

30 minutes, 10 secondsone of them was like an old lollipop. The boys  then took it in turns raping Kimberly Proctor. 

30:17

30 minutes, 17 secondsHer two best friends. And throughout this as the  boys were taking turns with her, in between, they  

30:25

30 minutes, 25 secondswould be beating her, shouting awful things at her.  This was complete and utter torture. After a good  

30:33

30 minutes, 33 secondsfew hours of this, Kimberly was becoming rather  unresponsive. I don’t think it was unresponsive,  

30:40

30 minutes, 40 secondsas much as she was just very weak and she wasn’t  putting up a fight so much anymore. And that was  

30:47

30 minutes, 47 secondswhen the boys grabbed Kim, who is still bound and  gagged and tied at the wrists and the ankles, they  

30:54

30 minutes, 54 secondspicked her up, took her into Cruz’s garage and  just dumped her inside this big chest freezer.  

31:01

31 minutes, 1 secondShe was still alive being put into this big freezer  and having that lid closed on her. The freezer  

31:08

31 minutes, 8 secondswas on. It was cold in there, she was gagged, she  was running out of oxygen very quickly. And when  

31:15

31 minutes, 15 secondsthe boys would later open that freezer, they would  find Kimberly Proctor dead in there.  

31:21

31 minutes, 21 secondsThe lack of oxygen had eventually killed her. I don’t know how  long it actually took for her to die inside that  

31:29

31 minutes, 29 secondsfreezer but we do know that it will have been  quite a long and drawn out death. She did die of  

31:35

31 minutes, 35 secondsasphyxiation from the lack of oxygen around her  because she’d had this ball of socks taped in her  

31:42

31 minutes, 42 secondsmouth for hours before she’d even been put in the  freezer, so it’s hard enough for her to breathe as  

31:48

31 minutes, 48 secondsis and then she gets put in the freezer and the  lid is closed on her. It’s airtight in there and  

31:54

31 minutes, 54 secondsno more oxygen got in. At some point during all of  this, I don’t know if it was while she was in the  

32:00

32 minutesfreezer or once they realised that she was dead  but at some point the boys, more specifically Cruz,  

32:06

32 minutes, 6 secondsstarted to set up a bit of an alibi, a little bit  of a cover for himself. He ran to his computer and  

32:14

32 minutes, 14 secondslogged on to MSN, which is where he and all of  his friends usually communicated and he opened  

32:20

32 minutes, 20 secondshis chat with Kim and messaged saying, oh are you  done babysitting yet? He knew full well that she  

32:26

32 minutes, 26 secondshadn’t even made it to babysitting that day but  he was setting this up so that there was some  

32:32

32 minutes, 32 secondssort of like written evidence that made him look  very innocent and unaware. But by doing this, Cruz  

32:39

32 minutes, 39 secondshad actually drawn a bit of attention to himself  because I don’t know if any of you remember having   MSN but I remember when someone would log on you  would get a little notification in the corner that  

32:49

32 minutes, 49 secondswas like, hey your friend Cruz is online. And so  when he logged on to send Kim this message, one  

32:55

32 minutes, 55 secondsof his friends had spotted that he was online  and he messaged Cruz quite a personal message. 

33:00

33 minutesHe wanted advice on something rather like personal,  I think something had happened with this kid’s dad   um and he really like vented to Cruz but  obviously Cruz’s dealing with all of this right  

33:11

33 minutes, 11 secondsnow, so he doesn’t respond to his friend and so the  friend ends up nudging him and being like hello?   Like, I need that advice please! And it was at this  point that Cruz realised that he was gonna have to  

33:21

33 minutes, 21 secondslike message this friend back otherwise he would  look very suspicious but the thing that he ends  

33:27

33 minutes, 27 secondsup messaging this friend, you’re not gonna believe  it right, he goes opens the chat with this friend   and he messages saying, oh sorry I didn’t get back  to you, the freezer was jumping around. When he has  

33:37

33 minutes, 37 secondsjust murdered a girl. It’s- it’s insane.  But it’s also just laughable that he’s going to a  

33:46

33 minutes, 46 secondscertain extent to try and cover for himself but  then he’s also just being so blatant in other   messages, as if it wasn’t going to come back to  bite him! And it wasn’t just Cruz that was acting  

33:56

33 minutes, 56 secondsweirdly either, Cameron Moffatt was also being  very odd in the aftermath of the murder. He had  

34:02

34 minutes, 2 secondsmessaged, I think an ex-girlfriend of his or like  an old flame and tried to rekindle things that  

34:08

34 minutes, 8 secondssame night, after he’s just murdered a girl. He has  gone back, thought of like his old roster of  

34:14

34 minutes, 14 secondsold girls that he used to talk to, he’s picked one  out of his head, messaged her out of nowhere just  

34:20

34 minutes, 20 secondsasking what she was up to. She said that she wasn’t  doing anything that night and so Cameron invited  

34:25

34 minutes, 25 secondsher to come to Cruz’s house and chill with  them two. And this girl actually turned him down,  

34:31

34 minutes, 31 secondsshe was like oh no I can’t tonight and thank God  because we don’t know what could have happened to   that other girl, as well. Were they planning to lure  another girl to the house and commit two murders  

34:42

34 minutes, 42 secondsin one day? We have no idea! Other than that, not  much else is really known about how the boys spent  

34:48

34 minutes, 48 secondsthe rest of that night. You can imagine that a lot  of it was just them discussing how they were going  

34:54

34 minutes, 54 secondsto try and get away with this murder, discussing  how they were gonna get rid of Kim’s body the  

34:59

34 minutes, 59 secondsnext day. That next morning, they grabbed a hockey  bag and went into the garage and loaded Kim’s body,  

35:06

35 minutes, 6 secondsher frozen dead body into this hockey bag. The boys  then carried this bag to the bus stop and hopped  

35:15

35 minutes, 15 secondson a bus to the Galloping Goose walking trail with  a dead body in a holdall, hanging off of their arm.  

35:23

35 minutes, 23 secondsAnd that is one of the most insane things I’ve  heard in a true crime case and I know it’s not  

35:29

35 minutes, 29 secondsspecifically unique to this one, I know that this  has happened in a good few cases but the concept  

35:34

35 minutes, 34 secondsof that makes me feel so uneasy. That you could  just be on a bus and someone else could get on  

35:40

35 minutes, 40 secondsyou know, just a normal bus customer and they could  like sit down on the seat next to you and have a   dead body in their bag and there is absolutely  no way for you to know. You would never know.   You would just be sitting next to a dead body  and a murderer and the person that killed them.

35:55

35 minutes, 55 secondsSo they rode the bus out to Galloping Goose walking  trail, which I think is just like a big like nature  

36:01

36 minutes, 1 secondreserve. It’s just a lot of trees, big woodland with  like a hiking trail and the boys ventured well far  

36:07

36 minutes, 7 secondsinto Galloping Goose Trail and they eventually got  to a bridge. They decided that this bridge would be  

36:15

36 minutes, 15 secondsquite a good place to leave Kim’s body. They went  underneath it, so it was a footbridge that people   were walking over and so they thought well, if they  go down under the bridge, then there’s no reason  

36:25

36 minutes, 25 secondsfor anyone to ever go under there. So they took the  bag down there and literally with Kim’s body still  

36:30

36 minutes, 30 secondsinside this hockey bag, they doused it in petrol.  Cameron had gone earlier that morning to go and  

36:37

36 minutes, 37 secondspick up some petrol, they knew what they were doing  here. They doused the bag and her body in petrol  

36:43

36 minutes, 43 secondsand then they set it on fire, thinking and hoping  that it would get rid of all of the evidence and  

36:49

36 minutes, 49 secondsnow, they would get away with murder. The boys left  the Galloping Goose trail that day thinking that   all of the evidence had been taken care of and  they both went to enjoy the rest of their days,  

36:59

36 minutes, 59 secondsas if they hadn’t just murdered an innocent young  girl. Cruz actually went and met up with a girl  

37:06

37 minutes, 6 secondsthat has been described in some reports as his  girlfriend, which is crazy if he had a girlfriend  

37:11

37 minutes, 11 secondsthroughout all of this! And Cameron actually went  out for brunch with his mother and his grandmother.  

37:17

37 minutes, 17 secondsHow can you face your grandma the day after you  have murdered someone? That’s insane! Little did  

37:24

37 minutes, 24 secondsthe boys know that an investigation was already  well underway to find Kim Proctor because right  

37:31

37 minutes, 31 secondsnow, she was missing. As soon as she hadn’t turned  up to a 3pm babysitting appointment commitment,  

37:37

37 minutes, 37 secondsthen her mother knew that something was wrong. She  tried to call Kimberly and her phone had just gone  

37:43

37 minutes, 43 secondsstraight to voicemail and again, her mother is  sensing that something is wrong because Kim’s   phone never goes to voicemail, she always picks it  up, she’s a very good girl. She would always  

37:53

37 minutes, 53 secondsmake it home for her babysitting commitments, she  would always answer her phone, she would always be   very communicative with her mother. Communicative?  Is that how you say that? I feel like I’ve rushed  

38:01

38 minutes, 1 secondthat word and it just came out like bleh. Point being,  her mum knew that something was wrong when she   couldn’t get hold of Kim and so she reported  her missing to the police, literally just a few  

38:11

38 minutes, 11 secondshours after she would have been murdered. 7 P.M the  following day, so the day when the boys would have  

38:18

38 minutes, 18 secondsdumped her body, her body was actually found later  that same day at 7 pm. It hadn’t been there very  

38:24

38 minutes, 24 secondslong. Some teenagers were actually going under  that footbridge to go and smoke weed, that was   their usual spot. So realistically if those kids  hadn’t have been doing that, I don’t think the body  

38:34

38 minutes, 34 secondswould have been found for quite a while because  not many people have a reason to be going under   footbridge, do they? I suppose unless you’re doing  something illegal! So Kim’s body was found the day  

38:45

38 minutes, 45 secondsafter she went missing but it wasn’t identified  as Kim Proctor. So her family didn’t know for  

38:52

38 minutes, 52 secondsquite a while that she’d actually been found and  that there was no chance of them getting her back  

38:58

38 minutes, 58 secondsalive. Her body was so badly burned that it was  unidentifiable to to anyone’s eye. They had to wait  

39:06

39 minutes, 6 secondsuntil they managed to like, study the crime scene  and then get her body back for an autopsy and then  

39:12

39 minutes, 12 secondsand only then, could they identify her through  dental records. And that was when it was identified  

39:19

39 minutes, 19 secondsas Kimberly Proctor’s body. Everyone that knew Kim  was absolutely horrified to hear of her murder and  

39:28

39 minutes, 28 secondsI think most people would be, of course but Kim was  such a sweet, innocent, well-behaved, well-mannered  

39:38

39 minutes, 38 secondsgirl. She had no enemies, she never made anyone feel  any kind of way, she was never mean to anyone. That  

39:46

39 minutes, 46 secondstown where they lived was supposedly so safe  and so friendly and a good place to raise a  

39:52

39 minutes, 52 secondsfamily but people couldn’t believe that something  like this had happened in their town. That a young  

39:59

39 minutes, 59 secondswoman had lost her life in such a horrific way.  So now that the body had been identified as that  

40:06

40 minutes, 6 secondsof Kim Proctor, the investigation was underway.  Police started by questioning well, absolutely  

40:12

40 minutes, 12 secondseveryone because everyone at this point was a  potential suspect. Family, friends, boyfriend well  

40:19

40 minutes, 19 secondsex-boyfriend, the guy that she was dating a little  bit, Cruz. You know police were- police were looking  

40:25

40 minutes, 25 secondsat everyone. Especially Cruz and Cameron, to be fair  and Zach because they were her closest circle. And  

40:33

40 minutes, 33 secondsCameron and Cruz were questioned a number of times  by police in the very beginning of this case. Both  

40:40

40 minutes, 40 secondswhen Kim was just a missing person and then when  her body was discovered and it was found to be a   murder, these boys were very, very central to the  investigation, whether they were suspects or not,  

40:50

40 minutes, 50 secondsthey were still Kim’s closest friends and could  probably offer some useful information or evidence. 

40:56

40 minutes, 56 secondsThe two of them told police their alibis. ‘Alibis?’  I don’t know, they hardly really had alibis. Their  

41:02

41 minutes, 2 secondsalibis were that they were at home with family or  they were with their girlfriend or they were with   each other. I don’t know what their alibis were  but they obviously couldn’t be proven. They did  

41:11

41 minutes, 11 secondshowever admit to the police that they had seen  Kim that day, they’d been with her that morning  

41:16

41 minutes, 16 secondsbut they also said that she left as normal for her  babysitting commitment at 3pm. They said that she  

41:23

41 minutes, 23 secondshad fully intended on making it there, so something  must have happened to her between being with them  

41:29

41 minutes, 29 secondsand making her way to babysitting. Now police  never really fully accepted Cruz and Cameron’s  

41:37

41 minutes, 37 secondsalibis or their stories or their versions of  events. I mean they kind of had to, to a degree  

41:43

41 minutes, 43 secondsbecause they couldn’t disprove anything, they had  no proof of absolutely anything right now but  

41:48

41 minutes, 48 secondssomething wasn’t right. Police were just keeping  an eye on these two you know, they were gonna- they  

41:54

41 minutes, 54 secondswere gonna keep them at the front of their mind. Almost a week went by after Kim’s murder and it  

42:00

42 minutesseemed that the boys were getting away with it.  That’s how it looked right now anyway because   the police went overly onto them or at least  it didn’t seem like that to the boys. In fact  

42:10

42 minutes, 10 secondsCameron was even eager to do it again, which makes  me think that he was probably trying to kill his  

42:16

42 minutes, 16 secondsex-girlfriend that night, inviting her over to the  house because a week after Kim’s murder, Cameron   messaged Cruz saying since we killed that b**ch and it wasn’t so hard, we should do it again.

42:28

42 minutes, 28 secondsSo in the aftermath of the murder, the boys are trying  trying to keep it cool, act cool, you know don’t act  

42:34

42 minutes, 34 secondssuspicious, don’t act weird but um they’re actually  doing the opposite of that, they’re actually acting  

42:39

42 minutes, 39 secondsreally weird. Especially Cruz. Whenever Kim was  brought up in school, Cruz would get really weird  

42:46

42 minutes, 46 secondsabout it and say some really horrible s**t. He’d  say such awful and insensitive things, be it he’d  

42:53

42 minutes, 53 secondsbe like oh who cares, she’s dead anyway and stuff  like that. Like this- this is your best friend, one  

42:59

42 minutes, 59 secondsof your best friends! But it wouldn’t be long until  police finally caught up with the boys, thanks to a  

43:05

43 minutes, 5 secondsvery stupid choice from Cruz. By now police were on  to both of them sufficiently, they had bugged both  

43:12

43 minutes, 12 secondsof their houses, bugged both their phones, their  computers. They were watching their every move and  

43:18

43 minutes, 18 secondsthe boys were blissfully unaware that they were  being so intently watched and they were behaving  

43:24

43 minutes, 24 secondsas normal, which would eventually be their downfall.  Now for context for this next bit, for for Cruz  

43:31

43 minutes, 31 secondsbig F up, you need a little bit of pre-context.  So he had a girlfriend or like an e-girlfriend.  

43:38

43 minutes, 38 secondsI don’t know what Cruz’s romantic situation  was throughout this case, I don’t know if he had   multiple girls on the go at once or- I really  don’t know but basically there was this girl  

43:48

43 minutes, 48 secondsthat lived quite a way a way. She lived in Canada  but like long distance, good few hours away. So the  

43:55

43 minutes, 55 secondstwo of them would talk online a lot, that was where  most of their relationship took place. But on one   particular night, Cruz messaged his e-girlfriend  and he was like I have something to tell you but  

44:06

44 minutes, 6 secondsI’m a bit nervous and she’s like oh no tell me,  tell me, you can tell me whatever and he was like  

44:10

44 minutes, 10 secondsokay I can tell you but I will only tell you  through the World of Warcraft messaging feature  

44:18

44 minutes, 18 secondsand she was like okay, see you there! So he  redirected the conversation from whatever  

44:24

44 minutes, 24 secondsplatform they were on at the time to World  of Warcraft messaging and I believe he did  

44:29

44 minutes, 29 secondsthis because he thought that messaging through  the World of Warcraft servers might be harder  

44:35

44 minutes, 35 secondsto trace and connect to him than you know, texting  his girlfriend from his number that is signed up  

44:42

44 minutes, 42 secondsto his name and everything. He just thought that  this was put in a bit more of a barrier between   him and the police because he was about to admit  to some s**t to his girlfriend. He gave this girl  

44:53

44 minutes, 53 secondsa detailed confession including links to articles  about the murder of Kim Proctor that him and his  

45:03

45 minutes, 3 secondsfriend committed and he gave this girl all these  kind of like, inside pieces of information that  

45:09

45 minutes, 9 secondshadn’t been posted in these articles. He was  going into detail, telling his girlfriend how  

45:15

45 minutes, 15 secondshe had murdered another girl and her response  was shockingly or unshockingly, quite supportive.  

45:23

45 minutes, 23 secondsShe said to him she was like, look thank you  for telling me this, I I’m sticking by a side no  

45:28

45 minutes, 28 secondsmatter what like, we’ll get through this together.  Whether she meant that or not, we don’t know but as  

45:34

45 minutes, 34 secondsI mentioned earlier in the case, sometimes women  just have to lie to men because they’re scared   of them, that is very common. So maybe she was  just putting on a bit of a front and being like,  

45:44

45 minutes, 44 secondsoh don’t worry like I’ll stay with you. I don’t  know if she ever went to the police about any of  

45:49

45 minutes, 49 secondsthis but truth be told, she didn’t really need to  because it wouldn’t be long until police got hold  

45:55

45 minutes, 55 secondsof those messages from World of Warcraft and then  they had a full written confession from Cruz.  

46:02

46 minutes, 2 secondsOn June 18th 2010 exactly three months after Kimberly  Proctor’s murder, both of her killers were arrested.  

46:10

46 minutes, 10 secondsBoth of the boys stayed quiet at first, they were  interrogated for hours by the police and they were-  

46:17

46 minutes, 17 secondsthey were talking but they were only telling them  the things that they’d already said. They weren’t   giving over anything new, they were into their  stories. At one point during his interrogation,  

46:26

46 minutes, 26 secondsCameron Moffett even said to the police and this  is so cocky, it’s unreal! He said to the police  

46:31

46 minutes, 31 secondsI’m telling you the truth, I’m just not telling  you every single little thing down to the tiniest  

46:37

46 minutes, 37 secondsgrain of detail. So he is being like, there is some  things I’m withholding but I’m telling you the  

46:43

46 minutes, 43 secondstruth like, what a d**kh**d. But eventually after nine  hours of interrogation, Cameron Moffatt cracked and  

46:51

46 minutes, 51 secondsstarted to confess in detail, what had really gone  down that day. Police asked Cameron how it felt  

46:58

46 minutes, 58 secondswhen he murdered Kim and he responded, the  biggest adrenaline rush you ever have because it’s  

47:07

47 minutes, 7 secondswhat the f**k. And he’s laughing as he’s saying it. When he  was asked about uh like the aftermath of Kim’s  

47:13

47 minutes, 13 secondsmurder and taking her body to the woods and  burning it, Cameron said that he knew burning   her body wasn’t going to get rid of everything  like, there was gonna be bones left and bits like  

47:24

47 minutes, 24 secondsthat, bits that could identify her but he said that  by lighting the fire, he hopped that other pieces  

47:29

47 minutes, 29 secondsof evidence could be gotten rid of you know like,  bruises and signs of the torture and the beatings  

47:35

47 minutes, 35 secondson her body and you know any DNA of the boys that  might have ended on her you know, burning her body  

47:42

47 minutes, 42 secondswould get rid of that. Eventually police felt that  they had enough evidence to charge both of these  

47:47

47 minutes, 47 secondsboys with the murder. So they were charged and  then they were put in a van to be transported  

47:53

47 minutes, 53 secondsto, I don’t know, wherever they were going to be  kept. And the boys didn’t know that the van was   also bugged! So they’ve already been charged with  the murders but police are still trying to get any  

48:03

48 minutes, 3 secondslast little bits of evidence, you know, in case they  need to take it to trial. So the van was bugged and  

48:09

48 minutes, 9 secondsthey recorded Cameron and Cruz’s conversation. Cruz  was telling Cameron all about his interrogations   with the police, saying they were really trying  to stroke my ego. Tell me how smart they think  

48:19

48 minutes, 19 secondsI am and oh you’re so good at manipulating and  things like that. The boys were just poking fun  

48:24

48 minutes, 24 secondsat the whole situation, they felt very proud you  know, like obviously the police were saying all of  

48:31

48 minutes, 31 secondsthat just to stroke their egos, just to butter them  up, just to you know get on their good side and the   boys knew that but they didn’t really care because  at the end of the day, they were still being told  

48:40

48 minutes, 40 secondsthat they were smart and good at manipulating and  that was good enough for them. So now they’re sat   in the back of this van like bragging about it  to each other being like, they told me I was good  

48:49

48 minutes, 49 secondsat manipulating. I imagine that’s exactly how they  were saying it as well. Cameron said back to Cruz,   so it was Cruz that told Cameron that other  quote from afar and then Cameron said back to  

48:57

48 minutes, 57 secondsCruz, I just laughed at like half the things they  said and sat there with a big ass grin on my face.  

49:03

49 minutes, 3 secondsLet me remind you, these are the interrogations  for their best friends murder! So now in  

49:09

49 minutes, 9 secondsthis case, all that was left for police to do was  to like consolidate all of their evidence and   make sure that they’ve got absolutely everything  against these boys. And that was when they found  

49:18

49 minutes, 18 secondssomething else! Because they’d obviously been going  back and back and back through the boy’s search   histories and all of their internet activity  like, they’d been going back years as they were  

49:28

49 minutes, 28 secondslike getting all the evidence for this case and  eventually they’ve found something way back in  

49:34

49 minutes, 34 secondsCruz’s internet history that is just insane!  I know I use that word a lot in this case but  

49:39

49 minutes, 39 secondseverything’s pretty insane here! Just over a year  before he would go on to commit the murder, Cruz  

49:45

49 minutes, 45 secondsposted a WordPress blog titled Early Warning Signs  of a Serial Killer. In this post he like, lists all  

49:53

49 minutes, 53 secondsthese early warning signs of a serial killer of  course and that includes animal abuse, fascination  

50:00

50 minuteswith fire, abandonment from at least one parent.  There’ll be a major interest in like BDSM and  

50:08

50 minutes, 8 secondshardcore pornography and like violent sex. And  Cruz ended this whole article, where he’s gone  

50:15

50 minutes, 15 secondsthrough all these early early signs of a serial  killer, he ends it with the peculiar thing is, I  

50:20

50 minutes, 20 secondsmeet all 14 criteria of a psychopath. Apparently  though, meeting all criteria makes it unlikely for  

50:27

50 minutes, 27 secondsthe subject to be a serial killer. I suppose only  time will tell. He ended the post saying only time  

50:35

50 minutes, 35 secondswill tell and I truly believe that had these  boys not been caught for Kim Proctor’s murder,   they definitely would have acted again and had  they not been caught for that one, they would have  

50:45

50 minutes, 45 secondsacted again and become serial killers. This type  of sadism is incurable and it continues throughout  

50:54

50 minutes, 54 secondssomeone’s life when they have such little respect  for other people and for other people’s lives then  

51:01

51 minutes, 1 secondyeah, these boys should be locked away forever.  When the case went to trial, both Cruz  

51:06

51 minutes, 6 secondsWellwood and Cameron Moffett pled guilty to their  charges of murder and for burning Kim’s body. The  

51:13

51 minutes, 13 secondstwo of them got life in prison with a minimum of  10 years before they’re eligible for parole and  

51:19

51 minutes, 19 secondsthat 10 years has already been and gone, so they  could be released on parole any f**king day now.  

51:24

51 minutes, 24 secondsNeither of them have been just yet but they- they  are actively having hearings every so often, from  

51:32

51 minutes, 32 secondsnow on so. Kimberly’s family were pretty upset  that they couldn’t seek the death penalty for  

51:38

51 minutes, 38 secondsthese boys because they fully felt that if these  boys have taken my daughter’s life, then they don’t  

51:44

51 minutes, 44 secondsdeserve to have their own. Although the death  penalty isn’t offered in Canada so, that wasn’t  

51:50

51 minutes, 50 secondsgoing to be an option but Kimberly’s family was  still very vocal, that they felt that these boys  

51:55

51 minutes, 55 secondsshould pay with their lives. They both seemed to  lack empathy to such a a terrifying degree like,  

52:03

52 minutes, 3 secondsthey felt none in the run-up to the murder, none  while it was happening, none in the aftermath like  

52:10

52 minutes, 10 secondsthere was not a single emotion that went through  these boys. People like that are the ones that are  

52:16

52 minutes, 16 secondsmost likely to become serial killers and like I  say if they hadn’t been caught, I have no doubt   that that’s exactly what Cameron and Cruz would  have gone on to be because I think that’s what  

52:25

52 minutes, 25 secondsthey wanted to be. In the aftermath of this case,  a few girls actually came forward to officials  

52:31

52 minutes, 31 secondssaying that Cameron or Cruz or in some cases even  both of them, had sexually assaulted them or just  

52:39

52 minutes, 39 secondsassaulted them in some way or another, been violent  or aggressive or abusive towards them. These boys  

52:44

52 minutes, 44 secondshad a pattern. Kim wasn’t their first victim but  she was their first murder victim. A ton of other  

52:51

52 minutes, 51 secondsgirls said that they had either been raped or  sexually assaulted or coerced or forced into  

52:56

52 minutes, 56 secondsreally violent sex with these two boys. Both of  them, Cameron and Cruz, have since been diagnosed  

53:03

53 minutes, 3 secondsas Psychopaths and sexual sadists and still  to this day like I said they’re both in prison  

53:09

53 minutes, 9 secondsum but they can have parole hearings from  this point, so it’s scary. They’re regular   assessments still to this day say that  both of them are still at high risk of  

53:19

53 minutes, 19 secondsreoffending so if that’s still happening, if  they’re still having these assessments and   they’re still coming back with the same answer,  hopefully that is enough to not let them be  

53:28

53 minutes, 28 secondslet out on parole. They’ve both been denied  parole multiple times for that exact reason   um and especially Cruz has quite a lower chance of  being let out on parole because he is still having  

53:40

53 minutes, 40 secondsoutbursts in prison and I don’t know the exact  nature of these outbursts but I think he harms  

53:46

53 minutes, 46 secondshimself during these outbursts. I don’t think he’s  harmed anyone else in prison but it’s clear that  

53:51

53 minutes, 51 secondshe’s still he can’t manage his own emotions  and needs a lot of help there before they can  

53:57

53 minutes, 57 secondseven consider letting him out. But that is all  I have for this case, thank you so so much for   watching and thanks again to June’s Journey for  sponsoring this video. Remember you can download  

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